One of the most talked about aspects of Leaving Neverland is the very graphic descriptions of sex abuse by both Robson and Safechuck. It was a shock to hear these accusers spell out the specific sex acts at length on screen. These vivid and compelling details are what led to many viewers believing the allegations were true. In this episode, you'll hear 3 arguments for why Robson and Safechuck's unusually graphic accounts of sex abuse should not be taken as evidence for truthfulness.
In Wade Robson's deposition, he says he can't remember why he sent himself articles from a website dedicated to Jackson's guilt (p. 74) . He also confirms he was doing a lot of reading about child sexual abuse, such as Victims No Longer, Conversations with a Pedophile and The Courage to Heal--all perfectly logical reading if the allegations are true. If these are false allegations, these are potential resources to help him craft a more realistic abuse narrative for his lawsuit:
Motivated Liars plan their lies down to the last detail:
In the field of deception science, researchers such as Dr. Sharon Leal from the University of Portsmouth, have shown that liars make extensive plans before they lie. Here’s her words:
"Contrary to popular belief, motivated liars do not fidget, avert their gaze or blink nervously. They are usually calm and have planned their lies down to the last detail."
Friedman explains how at Jackson's trial, the media would rush out of the courtroom to report on the salacious accounts by former Neverland employees, and completely disregard the cross examination that discredited them. He emphasized the extremely graphic nature of the accounts.
Jackson's 2005 trial attorney Tom Mesereau also states in numerous interviews how he saw reporters rushing out of the courtroom to file reports on the salacious stories by prosecution witnesses, and neglecting to stay for the cross examination that discredited these witnesses.
Promotional Interviews for Leaving Neverland:
In Robson and Safechuck's promotional interviews for the film, the interviewers make sure to ask them to repeat their graphic details to their own audiences.
Using this site to announce his allegations goes against Robson's words in his deposition that he wanted to avoid sensationalizing his story.
This interview took place after Jackson was arrested in the Arvizo case. Kimmel and his audience are more than ready to accept details by Wade about being sexually abused.
Painter and Jackson friend David Nordahl on Jackson's vitiligo when he first met him in 1988 "When I first met him, his vitiligo had gone to the right side of his face and down his neck. Most of his right hand was white. Stark white patches. He used makeup because he had to. Without it, he was speckled all over.”
KING: What is vitiligo?
KLEIN: It's a loss of pigment cells. And the pigment cells, you -- for every 36 normal cells in your body, you have one pigment cell pumping pigment into them. Unfortunately, it's an autoimmune disease and lupus is an autoimmune disease. And they tend to go together, because you make antibodies against your pigment cells.
KING: Did Michael have it?
KLEIN: Absolutely. We biopsied (INAUDIBLE).
KING: What causes it?
KLEIN: It causes -- it's caused by your immune system and your immune system destroying your pigment cells.
KING: Do black people have it more than white people?
KLEIN: No. But it's just more visible on black people, because they have a dark skin. The other thing is, it certainly occurs with a family history. And I believe one of Michael's relatives did, in fact, have vitiligo.
KING: How bad was his?
KLEIN: Oh, his was bad because he began to get a totally speckled look over his body.
Also includes statements about his makeup artist Karen Faye about having to cover up his patches with makeup.
In this report on the impact of trauma in sex abuse victims, it is noted that often it's the sensations of abuse that are encoded the strongest. However, in Robson and Safechuck's case, they are focusing on the acts, not the sensations, such as seeing striking brown and albino white patches
Sampling of the accounts from male sex abuse survivors as presented by the 1 in 6 advocacy group:
(These videos have since been removed from their website, possibly because some of these stories are now part of a documentary they put together)
In this case, the abuser quickly went from a favorite uncle to very scary; there are memories of the molester's breath, his scent, the sound of his voice, these all became evil in his mind, and describes abuse without getting too graphic, but does get emotional
Emotional without being graphic, also had a very negative response to the abuse
Dark and conflicted feelings because he idolized his father, but hated the abuse, thought it was disgusting and scary, describes scent memories
Perpetrator worked to become central role in his life, slowly got close and tested physical boundaries